“DA: You play chess?”

I think you already know the answer to that.

“If it happens that we meet in person at some point, would be delighted to play you at (also my favourite) game. Under tournament conditions, with clocks, of course.”

I can’t see why not… Just as long as you don’t knock on the door without telling me you’re comin’, and promise not to go away mad!

Yep, the overworked piece MUST fall.
It might have a view to the whole board, but can’t cover all the territory it sees at the same time.

There’s no such thing in our eyes as “the right kind of artist”. The idea of this site is to get input by all, period.

With all the discussion going on, I’m sure you’re not the only one who might have posted a comment that appeared to have not hit a strong enough chord to provoke a followup. Don’t let that discourage you. Like any other forum, some exchanges become “polarized” by either a topic, or a few specific commenters, and can seem to overshadow others at times.

Your input is not wasted, regardless, and it has value!

And yes! Some arguments can be enduring. Especially when these arguments are caused by years of propaganda, conditioning, and operating within an established set of rules.

These types of issues take time to sort out.
A lot of preconditioned thinking has to be discredited and discarded, and a lot of “bad feelings” have to be cleansed from the equation. “Mary” is right in the next page – we may have a “long road”…

The best “break” Billy could use right now is participation from his fellow artists here at a2f2a. Without them, we all might as well just have continued talking on p2pnet.

This has been a very obvious thing, and I have to wonder why. I realise that the site hasn’t been around that long, but I know BB believes in it, so I am certain he has passed word along to the others. It’s also been time enough to see that there hasn’t been the kind of foul name calling that they have seen on other sites. So why has the only other FAC artist besides BB been Indiana Greggs’ publicicst ? ( the only reason that post was even made, cut and pasted into two different threads, was to push a petition supporting a levy ). Do any other artists care enough about a dialog with the fans, the ones that actually PAY the money, to enter this dialogue ?

I don’t care about sides. Like most people I care about initiatives and results. I’ve learnt that nothing kills a fresh initiative like too much self-interest. If you’re going to partner with others you have to allow yourself to be changed by them, at least a little. There’s not much of that going on here I think.

One gets the feeling that dipping back in at any time the same arguments would be raging. Made in some cases with perfect erudition yes, and as I say, entertaining and educational. But otherwise useless.

Learn synergy, chaps. It may be a BS expression. But its application pays out.

One element I believe PPUK is weak in, we’ve had a little, but would dearly like more, is artist participation in forming and developing our policy. Not media cartels, but actual creative people. I understand there may be a “disconnect” between where we presently are, and what presently signed artists might expect… I hope we can build a bridge across that.

Devil’s Advocate:

How many times have I been trying to say Billy has, without a doubt, personified the “overworked piece” (for all you chess players out there), and that it would be a lot more constructive (and beneficial to Billy’s health and sanity!) if he wasn’t trying to hold the entire artist fort down all by himself??

Quite agree. And the “overworked piece” by necessity falls.

DA: You play chess? If it happens that we meet in person at some point, would be delighted to play you at (also my favourite) game. Under tournament conditions, with clocks, of course.