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		<title>By: Monkey D. Luffy</title>
		<link>http://a2f2a.com/2009/10/31/copyright-and-the-blank-media-levy/comment-page-1/#comment-637</link>
		<dc:creator>Monkey D. Luffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think most people here DON&#039;T want to pay the RIAA leeches. As I&#039;ve stated before, too much bad blood for reconciliation there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most people here DON&#8217;T want to pay the RIAA leeches. As I&#8217;ve stated before, too much bad blood for reconciliation there.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://a2f2a.com/2009/10/31/copyright-and-the-blank-media-levy/comment-page-1/#comment-631</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the central problems in this discussion is &quot;who gets paid?&quot;  Say you like a particular song, performed by a particular artist.  You&#039;ve downloaded the song and listened to it every day for the last month. You just want to pay the artist $1.  So who do you pay?  The person who wrote the lyrics?  The one who wrote the music?  The producer?  The performer?  The DJ who released the remix?  The owner of the copyright to the sample used in the chorus?  Should they all get equal shares?

So that part has to be worked out by the artists and some mechanism needs to be in place before they publish the song.  Someone needs to collect the money, distribute the money to the artists, and track the payments for the artists&#039; legal/tax purposes.

I think some sort of new or existing Performance Rights Organization (BMI, ASCAP, etc) or Copyright Collection Society (CCC, PRS, etc) needs to be fully engaged with any A2F2A effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the central problems in this discussion is &#8220;who gets paid?&#8221;  Say you like a particular song, performed by a particular artist.  You&#8217;ve downloaded the song and listened to it every day for the last month. You just want to pay the artist $1.  So who do you pay?  The person who wrote the lyrics?  The one who wrote the music?  The producer?  The performer?  The DJ who released the remix?  The owner of the copyright to the sample used in the chorus?  Should they all get equal shares?</p>
<p>So that part has to be worked out by the artists and some mechanism needs to be in place before they publish the song.  Someone needs to collect the money, distribute the money to the artists, and track the payments for the artists&#8217; legal/tax purposes.</p>
<p>I think some sort of new or existing Performance Rights Organization (BMI, ASCAP, etc) or Copyright Collection Society (CCC, PRS, etc) needs to be fully engaged with any A2F2A effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://a2f2a.com/2009/10/31/copyright-and-the-blank-media-levy/comment-page-1/#comment-630</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s look at different payment models:

1) You can pay for strictly controlled access to the art, like buying a CD in a store or a ticket to a performance.

2) You can pay for more loosely controlled access by buying a pass to a festival or using the iTunes store where you know you can buy any song for $.99.

3) You can pay on a voluntary basis, like going to a free show and making a donation or buying merchandise as you enter or leave, or through pledge drives like public radio or television in the US.

With free P2P technology, solutions 1 and 2 (the levy thing falls into the solution 2 category) become unenforceable.  So solution 3 is what we&#039;re after.  This can work, but it needs to be an organized effort.  Volunteers need to advocate for the system.  We need software to keep track of how much we&#039;ve payed, and for what.  Wouldn&#039;t it be amazing if buying music (or other media) fell in the category of a tax exempt contribution to the arts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s look at different payment models:</p>
<p>1) You can pay for strictly controlled access to the art, like buying a CD in a store or a ticket to a performance.</p>
<p>2) You can pay for more loosely controlled access by buying a pass to a festival or using the iTunes store where you know you can buy any song for $.99.</p>
<p>3) You can pay on a voluntary basis, like going to a free show and making a donation or buying merchandise as you enter or leave, or through pledge drives like public radio or television in the US.</p>
<p>With free P2P technology, solutions 1 and 2 (the levy thing falls into the solution 2 category) become unenforceable.  So solution 3 is what we&#8217;re after.  This can work, but it needs to be an organized effort.  Volunteers need to advocate for the system.  We need software to keep track of how much we&#8217;ve payed, and for what.  Wouldn&#8217;t it be amazing if buying music (or other media) fell in the category of a tax exempt contribution to the arts?</p>
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		<title>By: Crosbie Fitch</title>
		<link>http://a2f2a.com/2009/10/31/copyright-and-the-blank-media-levy/comment-page-1/#comment-458</link>
		<dc:creator>Crosbie Fitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;

And to do the ampersand in the above I used &amp;

And to do the ampersand in the above, if to end this recursion we substitute @ for ampersand, I used @amp;amp;  (@=&amp;)</description>
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<p>And to do the ampersand in the above I used &amp;amp;</p>
<p>And to do the ampersand in the above, if to end this recursion we substitute @ for ampersand, I used @amp;amp;  (@=&amp;)</p>
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		<title>By: DevilsAdvocate</title>
		<link>http://a2f2a.com/2009/10/31/copyright-and-the-blank-media-levy/comment-page-1/#comment-452</link>
		<dc:creator>DevilsAdvocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Crosbie:

Thanks for adding the part about &quot;strong&quot; and &quot;emphasis&quot;.  There are indeed lots of fonts that don&#039;t have bold or italic offerings.

One question for ya:
How did you use the pointed brackets in your examples, without them being taken as actual tags and disappear from view?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Crosbie:</p>
<p>Thanks for adding the part about &#8220;strong&#8221; and &#8220;emphasis&#8221;.  There are indeed lots of fonts that don&#8217;t have bold or italic offerings.</p>
<p>One question for ya:<br />
How did you use the pointed brackets in your examples, without them being taken as actual tags and disappear from view?</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Parsons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Parsons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;In depth tracking&#039; isn&#039;t meant to follow using email addresses, sign ups, or anything like that. All I mean is that it looks at aggregate numbers of people downloading, say, a Michael Jackson CD from a place like mininova by scraping something like the seeds/leachers numbers, perhaps 1/day or something. It&#039;s not a granular level of tracking, but remains very broad, and is just using information and scraping techniques that exist today - if I so chose, I could cook up a program to gather this information right now. The issue (as I read it, in terms of distributing levy monies) is that top 40 charts and similar mechanisms are predominantly used to distribute levies (and thus miss the long-tail of the music ecosystem). The aggregate system I&#039;m thinking of lets small and independent artists collect some of the levy.

In essence, the system I&#039;m envisioning takes already existing public data and uses it for better levy distribution. You can still share with your friends, and not all sharing will (or needs to be, frankly) noted in the aggregate - this is just to *better* rather than *perfectly* distribute levy funds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;In depth tracking&#8217; isn&#8217;t meant to follow using email addresses, sign ups, or anything like that. All I mean is that it looks at aggregate numbers of people downloading, say, a Michael Jackson CD from a place like mininova by scraping something like the seeds/leachers numbers, perhaps 1/day or something. It&#8217;s not a granular level of tracking, but remains very broad, and is just using information and scraping techniques that exist today &#8211; if I so chose, I could cook up a program to gather this information right now. The issue (as I read it, in terms of distributing levy monies) is that top 40 charts and similar mechanisms are predominantly used to distribute levies (and thus miss the long-tail of the music ecosystem). The aggregate system I&#8217;m thinking of lets small and independent artists collect some of the levy.</p>
<p>In essence, the system I&#8217;m envisioning takes already existing public data and uses it for better levy distribution. You can still share with your friends, and not all sharing will (or needs to be, frankly) noted in the aggregate &#8211; this is just to *better* rather than *perfectly* distribute levy funds.</p>
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		<title>By: John Barron</title>
		<link>http://a2f2a.com/2009/10/31/copyright-and-the-blank-media-levy/comment-page-1/#comment-436</link>
		<dc:creator>John Barron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;” I noted this deficiency, and argued for the need for more in depth tracking mechanisms. I agree that this is presently a problem, and offered a possible solution to reform levy organizations. ”

The entities that benefit the most from a lack of proper tracking methods currently control key decisionmakers and thus have no incentive to work on proper tracking. This is precisely why they push for more of these cash dumps. The only way to force them into the future is to stop giving them even more money without any accountability. End the levies. When the money dries up then maybe they will start looking at current proven models.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Dreddsnik, Christopher...

Something else to keep in mind... We don&#039;t &lt;i&gt;want&lt;/i&gt; to be &quot;tracked in depth&quot;, or to develop better tracking methods. Even if you said it would just be in aggregate and anonymised, it still has to be gathered, and we don&#039;t want it.

One reason for getting files through sharing is that it isn&#039;t necessarily tracked in any way, it isn&#039;t necessary to sign up, give information like an email address, or use a bank account etc, it can be anonymous. Even when it can be visible (e.g. peers on a bittorrent network)... There&#039;s just so much of it, and people also share in other ways, by swapping media, and on closed networks.

We do not want tracking methods mandated by &quot;rights-holders&quot;, we want the option to use and share with our friends without having to go through that. If money is changing hands, that&#039;s not the same, and one of the reasons why copyright enforcement of direct commercial use (selling copies) is capable of being somewhat effective is that there&#039;s a money trail to follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>” I noted this deficiency, and argued for the need for more in depth tracking mechanisms. I agree that this is presently a problem, and offered a possible solution to reform levy organizations. ”</p>
<p>The entities that benefit the most from a lack of proper tracking methods currently control key decisionmakers and thus have no incentive to work on proper tracking. This is precisely why they push for more of these cash dumps. The only way to force them into the future is to stop giving them even more money without any accountability. End the levies. When the money dries up then maybe they will start looking at current proven models.
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<p>Dreddsnik, Christopher&#8230;</p>
<p>Something else to keep in mind&#8230; We don&#8217;t <i>want</i> to be &#8220;tracked in depth&#8221;, or to develop better tracking methods. Even if you said it would just be in aggregate and anonymised, it still has to be gathered, and we don&#8217;t want it.</p>
<p>One reason for getting files through sharing is that it isn&#8217;t necessarily tracked in any way, it isn&#8217;t necessary to sign up, give information like an email address, or use a bank account etc, it can be anonymous. Even when it can be visible (e.g. peers on a bittorrent network)&#8230; There&#8217;s just so much of it, and people also share in other ways, by swapping media, and on closed networks.</p>
<p>We do not want tracking methods mandated by &#8220;rights-holders&#8221;, we want the option to use and share with our friends without having to go through that. If money is changing hands, that&#8217;s not the same, and one of the reasons why copyright enforcement of direct commercial use (selling copies) is capable of being somewhat effective is that there&#8217;s a money trail to follow.</p>
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		<title>By: Monkey D. Luffy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monkey D. Luffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooops, guess not here, that showed up green and in comic sans on the preview pane, but not when actually posted, DOH!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooops, guess not here, that showed up green and in comic sans on the preview pane, but not when actually posted, DOH!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Monkey D. Luffy</title>
		<link>http://a2f2a.com/2009/10/31/copyright-and-the-blank-media-levy/comment-page-1/#comment-429</link>
		<dc:creator>Monkey D. Luffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>
Cascading Style Sheets are fun too!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cascading Style Sheets are fun too!!</p>
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		<title>By: Crosbie Fitch</title>
		<link>http://a2f2a.com/2009/10/31/copyright-and-the-blank-media-levy/comment-page-1/#comment-425</link>
		<dc:creator>Crosbie Fitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Italic as in &#039;emphasis&#039; is &lt;em&gt;emphasised text&lt;/em&gt;. Bold as in strong is &lt;strong&gt;strengthened text&lt;/strong&gt;.

Italic as in &#039;emphasis&#039; is &lt;em&gt;emphasised text&lt;/em&gt;. Bold as in strong is &lt;strong&gt;strengthened text&lt;/strong&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Italic as in &#8216;emphasis&#8217; is &lt;em&gt;emphasised text&lt;/em&gt;. Bold as in strong is &lt;strong&gt;strengthened text&lt;/strong&gt;.</p>
<p>Italic as in &#8216;emphasis&#8217; is <em>emphasised text</em>. Bold as in strong is <strong>strengthened text</strong>.</p>
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