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	<title>Comments on: Making music</title>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://a2f2a.com/2009/10/25/making-music/comment-page-1/#comment-186</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Monkey D. Luffy:

I think it can be done and I&#039;ll try and come up with some ideas -- unless anyone else has been there, done that (which I haven&#039;t ;) )

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Monkey D. Luffy:</p>
<p>I think it can be done and I&#8217;ll try and come up with some ideas &#8212; unless anyone else has been there, done that (which I haven&#8217;t <img src='http://a2f2a.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Monkey D. Luffy</title>
		<link>http://a2f2a.com/2009/10/25/making-music/comment-page-1/#comment-183</link>
		<dc:creator>Monkey D. Luffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jon:

True, but in order to be used effectively promo on the web still takes a skill set many musicians lack.(had some friends, these guys were great musicians but HORRIBLE at the promo end of things). I think it&#039;s a great start for small bands, but it&#039;s always going to be hard for a DIY band to do the kind of promotion you need to fill a stadium. I&#039;m not in any way implying the record companies are necessary because of this, as I said before there are professional ad agencies that are great at promo, I just don&#039;t know how a DIY band could reach an agreement with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jon:</p>
<p>True, but in order to be used effectively promo on the web still takes a skill set many musicians lack.(had some friends, these guys were great musicians but HORRIBLE at the promo end of things). I think it&#8217;s a great start for small bands, but it&#8217;s always going to be hard for a DIY band to do the kind of promotion you need to fill a stadium. I&#8217;m not in any way implying the record companies are necessary because of this, as I said before there are professional ad agencies that are great at promo, I just don&#8217;t know how a DIY band could reach an agreement with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://a2f2a.com/2009/10/25/making-music/comment-page-1/#comment-151</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Monkey D. Luffy:

And then along came the net ...

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Monkey D. Luffy:</p>
<p>And then along came the net &#8230;</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Monkey D. Luffy</title>
		<link>http://a2f2a.com/2009/10/25/making-music/comment-page-1/#comment-148</link>
		<dc:creator>Monkey D. Luffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 04:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@rabbit80:

Promo on a massive scale is still something beyond the means of most DIY artists, it&#039;s the one thing the labels can do for an artist IF they want to. From what I&#039;ve read, labels can be very fickle about who they promote, if the excecs don&#039;t like a bands new album they can withhold promotion and have it die on the vine. Ask Fiona apple about this. If they are feeling really nasty, they will hold a band to it&#039;s contract, so they are stuck with a record company that refuses to promote them, and can&#039;t sign with another label even if the new label wants them and would promote them. Bands stuck in this situation would be better off with NO recording contract at all.
 I think there are a lot of promotional agencies out there that could do as good, or better a job promoting a band than the labels do, but the average DIY band can&#039;t afford them. Sad to say as far as the promotion angle goes I don&#039;t have a solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@rabbit80:</p>
<p>Promo on a massive scale is still something beyond the means of most DIY artists, it&#8217;s the one thing the labels can do for an artist IF they want to. From what I&#8217;ve read, labels can be very fickle about who they promote, if the excecs don&#8217;t like a bands new album they can withhold promotion and have it die on the vine. Ask Fiona apple about this. If they are feeling really nasty, they will hold a band to it&#8217;s contract, so they are stuck with a record company that refuses to promote them, and can&#8217;t sign with another label even if the new label wants them and would promote them. Bands stuck in this situation would be better off with NO recording contract at all.<br />
 I think there are a lot of promotional agencies out there that could do as good, or better a job promoting a band than the labels do, but the average DIY band can&#8217;t afford them. Sad to say as far as the promotion angle goes I don&#8217;t have a solution.</p>
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		<title>By: DevilsAdvocate</title>
		<link>http://a2f2a.com/2009/10/25/making-music/comment-page-1/#comment-146</link>
		<dc:creator>DevilsAdvocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 03:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Our artists still need people behind the scenes to do these things – most of which are still money earners.&quot;

I have to wonder how much cheaper it would be for an artist to strike an arrangement with &quot;non-label&quot; sources of the supporting work.  Surely, the labels&#039; services are astronomically more expensive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Our artists still need people behind the scenes to do these things – most of which are still money earners.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have to wonder how much cheaper it would be for an artist to strike an arrangement with &#8220;non-label&#8221; sources of the supporting work.  Surely, the labels&#8217; services are astronomically more expensive?</p>
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		<title>By: rabbit80</title>
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		<dc:creator>rabbit80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, what use are the recording industrys these days?

Advertising / promoting artists? Events and gigs? Merchandise?

Our artists still need people behind the scenes to do these things - most of which are still money earners. Perhaps we ought to take a look at the jobs that need to be done to support the artists and see how they in turn earn money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, what use are the recording industrys these days?</p>
<p>Advertising / promoting artists? Events and gigs? Merchandise?</p>
<p>Our artists still need people behind the scenes to do these things &#8211; most of which are still money earners. Perhaps we ought to take a look at the jobs that need to be done to support the artists and see how they in turn earn money.</p>
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